The transfer embargo on El-Bombers was lifted today, and in the early afternoon Bahaa announced that he needed to sell a number of players because he'd got "in deep trouble with the mods, I need a lot of money or else I'll be leaving". This sparked a heated discussion with UFFA members jumping to the defense of their beleaguered colleague, attacking the decision to punish El-Bombers.
This is awful
Mods, what are you thinking, we have people deliberatly running their clubs into the grounds and caring of the impact. We have people leaving daily.
Why are you hitting this guy with such a fine? how many people have 2mil nowadays. Even West Ham got to appeal!!
Why dont you stagger the fine over a period of 2 season so he can survive. Is putting this guy out of business really the answer?- Frasier Harvie (15:54)
It sounds like something out of a mafia movie plot!- Mark Garner (16:00)
I'd give it up mate - Mods are Judge, Jury and Executioner with no fair appeals process.
And you're likely to get a fine for questioning their actions in either discussions on here or on the forums, mores the shame.
I'm a big advocate of the right to free speech and also the right to protest (both recognised human rights), but such things are surpressed in this game simply because the people (person) at the top doesn't like to have any flaws exposed (even if those flaws could be discussed, learned from and things made better in the long run).
Your only course of action here is to log a ticket with (lack of) support then hope and prey before realising you aint going to have anything changed and you have to live with it or leave and not pay your subscription any more.
I will add that the mods are generally nice guys and generally make the right decisions in keeping the gameworld trouble-free, the problem is the dealing with the aftermath, particularly if things HAVE gone wrong.
A 'Customer Charter' would solve such things by letting us know what to expect, what the mods do, what the appeals process is, etc (cue the usual 'read the Terms and Conditions' posts, please note a Customer Charter is NOT the terms and conditions and would be ADDITIONAL to any Terms and Condiitons) - I have suggested doing this, but again 'the man' does not wish to entertain the idea.- James Hargreaves (18:21)
Not everyone was so easily taken in though:
He did a dodgy deal and was fined. Not by mods and not by mods in our gameworld but it would only be the lead mod Richard Tedbutt who can do it. If this makes or breaks him he goes in the pile with the others tagged with bad planning/not thinking about future cos his deal negotiated was one sided and that allowed him to lose a lot of unwanted players and bring in someone very good. If its gonna ruin him then im pretty sure he would have been given the option of him to have Gomez released which it would seem he didnt want to take.
Face up to your mistakes...- Craig MacLean (19:14)
That's only half of the story and you know that full well Taha. To all those jumping on the "mods are evil" bandwagon here; have you done any research into the deal concerned at all? Do you really think that this deal would have been accepted by a manager that was not leaving the game world?
Considering he got to keep the player concerned, and all the wages saved on those half-a-dozen deadweights he offloaded at no cost I don't think he's done too bad with getting a £2m fine personally. I can think of a few high profile player releases lately that have cost clubs a lot of money in paid off contracts to free up projected income who would happily accept a £2m loss and a world class player instead of a similar loss without gaining a player of such quality as part of the deal.
If he'd just waited to bid for Gomez in a FAIR auction and paid to release his unsellable players from their contracts as the majority of the gameworld have done recently then he wouldn't be in the position he's in now.
Sadly, this is not the only deal of this type to have taken place during the past week either, tough times bring out the worst in people.- Dave Parker (19:30)
However, the full facts of the story surfaced later that evening:
OK - before this gets any further out of hand, we approached the manager who purchased Gomez as he swapped 5 players knowing full well that the other manager was leaving - this allowed him to get a world class player whilst dumping 5 players and decreasing his wages at the same time.
Quote from the chat logs "We'll do it this way so it doesn't look suspicious".
We then received various pleading emails from the manager (and his brother) begging us to not release Gomez and that the manager was prepared to pay another £2m to keep him.
I was asked to look at the deal, and whilt the MVs balanced there was a significant drop in wages so we gave the manager 3 options:
1) Remove £2m from his finances to compensate (he couldn't afford this now so we gave him 24hrs to come up with the cash)
2) Remove a player with a £2m MV from his squad, or
3) Remove Gomez and refund his money spent.
Now how is that not fair (except perhaps we were too lenient?)
So yet again I invite you all to please calm down, request the full facts of the matter in private if you are concerned, and give the mods a break! They are all doing the best job they can, and unfortunately these "discussions" where they are abused really don't help- Richard Tebbutt (19:38)
The story promises to rumble on for some time yet; in the early hours of Thursday morning Mario Gomez's contract at El-Bombers was cancelled by the authorities. My sources in the UFFA suggest that this is not the only deal of this type to be investigated recently either.
This episode raised a number of questions:
- Why are disciplinary actions not made public to begin with? A transparant disciplinary process should be introduced by the authorities, seeing them make public the findings of all investigation into such deals; announcing the parties involved, the reasons for the punishment and the punishment itself.
- Why is there no punishment for breaking UFFA rules over and above reversing the illegal actions caught? When someone steals your car his punishment is not simply having to return the car to you.
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This is a pretty old issue, but I'm intrigued and maybe someone could enlighten me further as to the matter.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I gather a manager made a deal that brought him Mario Gomez for a minimal cash element and 5 unwanted players that were then released because the manager at the other end of the deal was leaving the GW.
Why in God's name is this illegal? If this is the kind of heavy-handed FA activity that is going on in paid GWs, it makes me glad I've remained a beta tester. A number of players are being released into the GW, and this guy was enterprising enough to cash in on a key player before he had to go through the transfer auctions and see his wage spike to insanity levels (probably 40+k)
Unless there was some insider moving here (they were brothers or the same user on multi accounts or something similar), I honestly find it ridiculous that the remaining manager was penalized. Everyone else should have tried to cash in on the move too, no one wants to go through the transfer auction. And honestly, it affects basically no one -- Gomez was already contracted, so because there wasn't some free and "democratic" (if you can call the insane overpaying that goes on in this jokes) resale of his contract this guy gets penalized?
Seems way out of bounds for any mod to be dealing with this kind of deal to me. Deal with mutli-accounts and real cheating, in my opinion.